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		By: Cody RavenTamer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cody RavenTamer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2019 16:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://finalbastion.com/arts-entertainment/bastion-times-edition-2/#comment-24341&quot;&gt;rotterdam&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi rotterdam, while I appreciate and value your opinion, I urge you to take another look the work our talented and dedicated authors publish on the website for everyone to enjoy. If it is still not up to your standards I welcome you to look elsewhere in this wonderful community the game has cultivated. Many thanks!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://finalbastion.com/arts-entertainment/bastion-times-edition-2/#comment-24341">rotterdam</a>.</p>
<p>Hi rotterdam, while I appreciate and value your opinion, I urge you to take another look the work our talented and dedicated authors publish on the website for everyone to enjoy. If it is still not up to your standards I welcome you to look elsewhere in this wonderful community the game has cultivated. Many thanks!</p>
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		By: Eric Stormbringer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Stormbringer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2019 15:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://finalbastion.com/arts-entertainment/bastion-times-edition-2/#comment-24341&quot;&gt;rotterdam&lt;/a&gt;.

We write a large variety of articles to cater to a wide audience. Not every article will cater to all audiences and that&#039;s ok. Our authors work very hard on everything we post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://finalbastion.com/arts-entertainment/bastion-times-edition-2/#comment-24341">rotterdam</a>.</p>
<p>We write a large variety of articles to cater to a wide audience. Not every article will cater to all audiences and that&#8217;s ok. Our authors work very hard on everything we post.</p>
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		By: rotterdam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this forum is not what it used to be... is getting a nonsense massive posting and that urgence of no idea articles and willing to be somebody in the kingisle community is already becoming a problem.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this forum is not what it used to be&#8230; is getting a nonsense massive posting and that urgence of no idea articles and willing to be somebody in the kingisle community is already becoming a problem.</p>
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		By: Alex Thunderstaff		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Thunderstaff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2019 00:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://finalbastion.com/arts-entertainment/bastion-times-edition-2/#comment-24326&quot;&gt;Andrew&lt;/a&gt;.

So then wouldn&#039;t the scion spells be unbalanced? You dont balance the game by adding overpowered spells or giving one school more utility than others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://finalbastion.com/arts-entertainment/bastion-times-edition-2/#comment-24326">Andrew</a>.</p>
<p>So then wouldn&#8217;t the scion spells be unbalanced? You dont balance the game by adding overpowered spells or giving one school more utility than others.</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 20:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://finalbastion.com/arts-entertainment/bastion-times-edition-2/#comment-24324&quot;&gt;Alex Thunderstaff&lt;/a&gt;.

Alex, you are completely ignoring the existence of scion (I know you said you aren&#039;t familiar with visionary), but scion is insanely good for the three schools you didn&#039;t mention, Death, Myth, and Storm. Myth has the easiest possible activation for double damage scion, just cast stun shield twice, and then you can one shot literally everyone. Shields won&#039;t matter when you&#039;re in shrike. Death has an easy to activate double damage as well, you can even use Juju to negate hits from your opponent and get yourself into the 33% health threshold to get the double damage bonus. Storm also has a very easy to activate double damage bonus. If someone lacks a blade they&#039;re dead period. You can make an argument that you can play differently to avoid storm and death scion. And you&#039;d be right (most of the time) as long as death doesn&#039;t have juju. However by the mere existence of scion you&#039;re forced to play unoptimally or face scion. Most people are not going to run spirit or elemental blade, because it&#039;s a waste of a sideboard/deck slot, and you waste a round and a pip for a blade that is weaker than a lot of schools&#039; natural blade. But because of storm scion merely existing you have to run that and use it. With death you pretty much have to one shot them.

The only school that can really be argued to be &quot;way beyond&quot; the other schools is balance. This is because mana burn is insanely op and can stop everyone from ever getting the pips to scion. But even this can be argued against because balance completely lacks the tools to one shot people. Instead balance is super predictable and always tries to chip people out and control the game. If you just outchip them or break their control you win because they&#039;re so predictable.

Overall, pvp at max is some of the most balanced pvp there&#039;s ever been. Every school has the tools to compete at a high level and counter different spells (too many to list here so I just emphasized the strengths of the schools you neglected). I think it is definitely fair of John to say that those who complain about spells just don&#039;t know how to pvp, because all the counters exist. If people can&#039;t utilize them that&#039;s on them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://finalbastion.com/arts-entertainment/bastion-times-edition-2/#comment-24324">Alex Thunderstaff</a>.</p>
<p>Alex, you are completely ignoring the existence of scion (I know you said you aren&#8217;t familiar with visionary), but scion is insanely good for the three schools you didn&#8217;t mention, Death, Myth, and Storm. Myth has the easiest possible activation for double damage scion, just cast stun shield twice, and then you can one shot literally everyone. Shields won&#8217;t matter when you&#8217;re in shrike. Death has an easy to activate double damage as well, you can even use Juju to negate hits from your opponent and get yourself into the 33% health threshold to get the double damage bonus. Storm also has a very easy to activate double damage bonus. If someone lacks a blade they&#8217;re dead period. You can make an argument that you can play differently to avoid storm and death scion. And you&#8217;d be right (most of the time) as long as death doesn&#8217;t have juju. However by the mere existence of scion you&#8217;re forced to play unoptimally or face scion. Most people are not going to run spirit or elemental blade, because it&#8217;s a waste of a sideboard/deck slot, and you waste a round and a pip for a blade that is weaker than a lot of schools&#8217; natural blade. But because of storm scion merely existing you have to run that and use it. With death you pretty much have to one shot them.</p>
<p>The only school that can really be argued to be &#8220;way beyond&#8221; the other schools is balance. This is because mana burn is insanely op and can stop everyone from ever getting the pips to scion. But even this can be argued against because balance completely lacks the tools to one shot people. Instead balance is super predictable and always tries to chip people out and control the game. If you just outchip them or break their control you win because they&#8217;re so predictable.</p>
<p>Overall, pvp at max is some of the most balanced pvp there&#8217;s ever been. Every school has the tools to compete at a high level and counter different spells (too many to list here so I just emphasized the strengths of the schools you neglected). I think it is definitely fair of John to say that those who complain about spells just don&#8217;t know how to pvp, because all the counters exist. If people can&#8217;t utilize them that&#8217;s on them.</p>
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		By: Alex Thunderstaff		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 20:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[John I completely disagree with you and find it rude to associate complaining with not knowing how to PvP. There&#039;s a reason why you see Balance, Fire, Ice, and Life way beyond the other schools. Maybe you&#039;re the one who lacks the understandment of how difficult it is to counter these spells with your over the top ranks? I could go on in detail why we think these spells are need changes but you can always find the article and give it a read. Don&#039;t let the love for these spells warp your judgment into being bias. I would also like to add that Visionary is not an area of PVP that I&#039;m familiar with; however, I am with Champion pvp and know the struggles.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John I completely disagree with you and find it rude to associate complaining with not knowing how to PvP. There&#8217;s a reason why you see Balance, Fire, Ice, and Life way beyond the other schools. Maybe you&#8217;re the one who lacks the understandment of how difficult it is to counter these spells with your over the top ranks? I could go on in detail why we think these spells are need changes but you can always find the article and give it a read. Don&#8217;t let the love for these spells warp your judgment into being bias. I would also like to add that Visionary is not an area of PVP that I&#8217;m familiar with; however, I am with Champion pvp and know the struggles.</p>
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		By: John		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2019 07:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To be honest, Thomas barely knows what he is talking about. Guardian spirit has been fairly downgraded from 25% already and it can be easily dampened by doom and gloom. Burning rampage can easily get countered by triage or shift. Although loremaster is a great spell, it is not a spell that makes it impossible to win, as it is unlikely to fizzle from a -35% mantle or a -20% weakness. I currently have a decently ranked warlord from every school at Visionary, and I do not have a problem with any of the aforementioned spells as everything can be countered. The only people that actually complain about certain spells have not yet learned how to PvP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, Thomas barely knows what he is talking about. Guardian spirit has been fairly downgraded from 25% already and it can be easily dampened by doom and gloom. Burning rampage can easily get countered by triage or shift. Although loremaster is a great spell, it is not a spell that makes it impossible to win, as it is unlikely to fizzle from a -35% mantle or a -20% weakness. I currently have a decently ranked warlord from every school at Visionary, and I do not have a problem with any of the aforementioned spells as everything can be countered. The only people that actually complain about certain spells have not yet learned how to PvP.</p>
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